Atheist Perspective: Driving Backward

EMil Wentzel:

Killing curiosity will only lead is to the destruction of what makes us human.

Originally posted on Rdxdave's Weblog:

Aristotle opens the Metaphysics with the idea that what people desire most is to know. It is inherent in our nature to want to know what we do not. In seeking the answers to all of the questions we are not doing something novel or unique but fulfilling what is inherent to our very being. The quest for what is unknown can never truly be fulfilled but still the search is what makes it worth it. The search can only move forward if we do not have to start over each time we begin.

There are those people that claim to have the ultimate knowledge, perfect knowledge of all things. A claim like this should always be met with skepticism and a demand for evidence. We should always distrust those saying that they know the unknowable. As Cicero once put it, “for what is more unbecoming than ill-considered haste? and…

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I don’t want to understand!

This post is a little follow on from Explosing my mom’s religion…

The request I made for a verse from the bible demonstrating an god’s love, resulted in only this :

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John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.

 

After experiencing the “christian logic” of validating someone’s brutal torture, and having to repeatedly explain – YES! ACTUALLY EXPLAIN – how someone being tortured and murdered isn’t an act of love, I was loosing my restraint. The debate shifted to validating that Jesus was in fact god, and all his works should be considered as god’s in every way… I refused to accept that logic because then it would invalidate the very point of Jesus’ existence.

The debate went on with all these verses about ‘god is love’ but nothing showing any act of love, at least nothing a rational and moral person would consider a way of showing love to another human being. The repeat of John 3:16, and again the reasons why it isn’t an act of love to kill yourself for yourself so that you can forgive those you created.

A commenter stated that the New Testament over rides and effectively nullifies the Old Testament, which lead me to this final closing remark.

“Steven, you’re talking out of your ASS! Jesus himself says he isn’t here to change the old ways. In fact, nothing changes after he dies-comes back-floats away… except they he hasn’t come back, not even for his dear friends, and that your god no longer speaks at all to any living human and is silent of the horrors that your people have and still do perpetuate in “his” name, under the soiled cloak of righteousness.

I don’t want to understand! Not after today. I feel such sadness for you all. That you would continue to portray such a monstrous demon of your own creation as loving and kind – and that your god’s kindness and love is built and drenched in so much blood and human on human hatred and violence… and worse still you accept that as truth. But still you wish it upon me, a person who is revolted by the very idea of murder, torture and making someone suffer.

Your religion is one designed by the very same people who committed that poor man/demi-god/god-himself to a painful execution. And then, through some poorly veiled remorse, they now revel and celebrate the brutal death of an innocent, while cheering ‘he has died for US so that WE can be as Kings’.

I will not succumb to the vile and compassionless, self-aggrandising and simultaneous self-loathing that Christianity demands of me. I would rather be wrong than live a life of such disdain that my very being and existence are sickened to the core by.

Go dance and clap and sing the praise of gloom and murder, while showing such unadulterated gratitude to that savage act of violence; so much so that one can know you are filled with ecstasy at the thought – ‘Jesus was crucified for me!’. The joy Christians express about such an event is enough to make me swear on my mortal life – “I will never pray to the god of Abraham, for he is the bringer of darkness and pain and suffering!”

Exposing my mother’s religion… To my children?

I know I’ve been quiet lately, many things are weighing on my mind, between finding work/a job *shudder* and the other things that can easily fill a life, I have some deep questions that I’ve been mulling over.

*For clarity, I don’t have any kids of my own yet.

One of these questions was posed to me by my mom – “Would you allow me to take your children to church with me?”

This question comes in the midst of a ‘controversial’ case happening in my country on removing religion in schools. I’m involved in developing an organisation that promotes secularism in society, so I’m tuned into the case intimately. So when my mother asked this question, I recalled the stories of atheist (as well as non-christian) parents sending their children to school, and the torment it caused them. My mother is a kind person at heart, sometimes a bit too sharp and thoughtless with her tongue, but I felt a genuine request for me to show that I would allow her to share this important part of her life.

So my quick answer was, “Yes, but only with my permission.”
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Fate your own…

This is a quick post. I’ve been busy recently, and haven’t written anything…hope this poem is enjoyed :)

Fate your own

And he will come

The Lord of all?

Aye in splendours of purity

But will he come for us?

Will he save us from our fate?

I say he will come

Our Lord will come

And he will not harm us?

He will come and do what he must

If harming us is to save us

Be it so to save us

Save us?

From?

Ourselves

Our enemies

Our fate

Fate?

Our fate must be our fate

No one can change that

Or is this Lord our fate?

Nay

He is merely the vehicle for change

Then I will be my own lord

He that will come is not a lord

He is the one, who will bring nothing to the fore

He is just as we are

In need of saving

Lords are what we are

By choice

By Fate

I shall be my own lord

And he that comes?

He will feel that he has no place

And he will go and never come again

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